Arrakis / Dune
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fuchsWell. How humbling.
I just read all Wikipedia entries to Dune.
I read Dune when I was fifteen, all six books in two weeks of french, white lakes and cirrus clouds. I fell deep into this world, emerged only very slowly and never went back again.
Or so I thought.
Now I see a gentle young boy again, sacrificing himself to a lonely eternity, recreating his always dying companion and only friend time and time again, because he saw the futures and has to secure the only one in which humanity survives.
Worlds upon worlds with religions and wisdom, the biggest danger in form of sentient machines, and a Human Imperium whose primary goal is to stay stable and SECURE, which would ultimately destroy it, if it weren't for said immortal boy mixing adventure and expansion into humanity.
Great GOD, how humbling.
Right, so nearly nothing in Traidis is truly mine. Herbert, Shakespeare and Zimmer-Bradley did it all before.
But, well, at least I mix it in a new way.
Strange to read all that, like finding an old, lost childhood friend.
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Date: 2007-07-31 12:53 pm (UTC)Hast du mittlerweile auch die beiden Prelude-Triologien gelesen, und die Fortsetzung, die sein Sohn geschrieben hat?
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Date: 2007-08-01 09:59 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-01 10:36 am (UTC)Kann ja mal vorkommen...
-M (Der jetzt lust hat, sich das ganze Duneiversum nochmal anzutun, bevor demnächst der letzte teil erscheint)
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Date: 2007-07-31 04:18 pm (UTC)I became interested in it because of the computer game, Dune, based on the David Lynch movie. (Not the RTS, but the adventure/strategy one)
One of the things I admire about it is like you say, the God-Emperor... in fact, I hated to read that part of the book, but I feel that's exactly how it should be, because the rule of the God-Emperor was a terror upon the known universe. A necessary terror, he knew.
Have you seen the Sci-Fi channel series Children of Dune? Their first series, Dune, based on the first book, isn't that good visually - but Children of Dune is a combo of the 2nd and 3rd book, and it's awesome. The series is a much better retelling of the books than the David Lynch movie *shudder*
I have such deep respect for Frank Herbert, for creating the world that he did, so complicated, and true, and how it all works; how he spun the threads of the story... Kevin J. Anderson botched it, though; the Butlerian Jihad is terrible. I couldn't even read past the first ten pages. The characters are dead. There is no life in them. It's like reading a science paper on bricks.
Oh, and imagine my amusement when I found out that the Great Honored Matre who controls men through sex was in fact called Dama...
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Date: 2007-08-01 10:04 am (UTC)I've seen nothing but the old movie, maybe I should, though. :D
Yeah, all this massive history, and everything is just so conclusive! I read only the original two trilogies, though.
And the names! God, I could fangirl for hours just about the names of people, places, technologies, things, times...
And LOL @ "Dama"
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Date: 2007-08-01 11:31 am (UTC)like... Hysteria, for example? *giggle*
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Date: 2007-08-01 11:39 am (UTC)It was Hesterion, actually.
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Date: 2007-08-01 11:57 am (UTC)Meant no harm to fan-territory. Just still have to giggle about that moment of silence after introducing her, no matter how good that name fits into Herbert's universe.
Phonetics don't like me.
*gnichel*
Voll vom Thema ab:
Date: 2007-08-01 01:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-01 06:34 pm (UTC)Watch this trailer and dare tell me you don't want to see the series! (http://www.liberatedfilms.com/film-14421-Children%20of%20Dune%20-%20US%20Home%20Video%20Trailer)
Wah, it's giving me goosebumps just seeing it again...
Fun fact: the guy who played Mr Tumnus, the Faun, in Chronicles of Narnia is the same actor who plays Leto II.
I've read all the originals, the three Preludes and the two books of the series about the Butlerian Jihad; but they got worse and worse after the Preludes. I would say the Preludes are still very doable, the story of Ix really pulled me in. But don't get started on the older ones - those will ruin everything. :\
And yes, god, the names!! I know what you mean! I'm a name freak myself, not in the least because I'm synaestethic. If a name has good colors, good harmony...
I have faced this trailer.
Date: 2007-08-07 08:08 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-07-31 10:34 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-01 10:05 am (UTC)Nein, nicht wirklich. Höchstens, dass ich Frank Herbert in der Danksagung erwähnen werde. :D
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Date: 2007-08-01 10:11 am (UTC)Ich fand jetzt schwer zu deuten, ob das für dich ok ist oder naja, schlecht/blöd halt, weil du eben 'ernüchternd' geschrieben hast. Desdewegen wollt ich mal nachfragen.
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Date: 2007-08-01 10:24 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-01 12:51 pm (UTC)Aber, dann hab ich ja jetzt verstanden, wie es gemeint war :)
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Date: 2007-08-01 01:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-01 08:09 am (UTC)Ich finde es jedesmal wieder sehr anrührend, wenn ich nach langer Zeit ein Buch in die Finger nehme (oder mit dem Inhalt in Kontakt komme), dass mich einmal gefangengenommen und stark berührt hat. Es ist ein bißchen so, als würde man unvermutet ein Baumhaus wiederfinden, dass man als Kind irgendwo gebaut hat und plötzlich wieder von einer Flut von Erinnerungen und Emotionen überschwemmt werden, die damit verknüpft waren...
Snipf.
Abgesehen davon: Traidis ist dein Baby und durch und durch dein, auch wenn einige Konzepte dem Lesevielfraß nicht unbekannt vorkommen dürften. Es sind schließlich nicht allein die Konzepte, sondern vornehmlich die Protagonisten, die fesseln - sonst wären wohl belletristische Bearbeitungen alter Sagenstoffe bzw. die gesamte Fantasy-Literatur fürchterbar obsolet. ^_^
Ich finde übrigens auch, dass du dir schlechtere Paten für deinen Erstling hättest aussuchen können als Herbert, Shakespeare und Zimmer-Bradley. Kompliment an deinen Geschmack. ^^
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Date: 2007-08-01 10:06 am (UTC)Klar ist es mein Baby. Es war nur ein wirklich erstaunlicher Wiedererkennungswert. :D
Vielen Dank!