A different mindset
Feb. 21st, 2011 12:43 amSo she says:
"I might have expanded your view so much, opened up so many possibilities in your mind, that I might have lost me a manager for this. And I need a manager! I need someone to replace me, and do all the niggly bits. That person might not be you - and they will have their own front door! I'm still going to buy this perfect little cottage in Croydon! But I can't keep on helping young people expand all the time, and then nobody stays."
And she's right in a way.
"You might one day wake up and think of this as a small, backwater thing you don't want to do - and you're free to! Understand this: You will still be a child of this, we will still be connected! But I need something out of this, too."
Is she guilt-tripping me into staying here? Or is she seeing this much more clearly than I am.
She did expand my mind after all. And it turned from a completely magical place into a little backwater wanne-be B&B.
I tried to get to the core of my problem with all this, and I told her, that I am trying to figure this out.
I say:
"I'm setting up this system, so that someone can manage this - anyone, really - but everytime I do I push against not only your system, but your life. And you push back. No, you don't want direct debit, okay. But then this takes much longer than it should."
"It could work with the manager's account, though! They could put something online, if they wanted to!"
"That's not it."
No, it's "Everything that's mine is yours" versus "Don't drink the orange juice for the guests" and "Don't use the bathroom while there are guests there."
It's "I don't want to give any orders or explain how something works" versus "This is all a mess now, someone changed the order of these linen drawers" and "Someone did this completely wrong."
Is this really, again, just a case of bad communication? Or a case of bad behaviour set? What if I reacted not as a mindset charity case but as the future manager (which I don't want to be)?
And fear, always fear: "Just don't abandon me." Maybe it's not her pushing, that's annoying me so much, that's making me distance myself, emotionally. Maybe it's her pulling. I have always hated that. This implication of "If I don't rope you into staying, you will just forget about me."
Yes, she has expanded me. And yes, I won't stay here, I will expand further, like she predicts. But maybe I can take this with me, expand it with me. Maybe. Probably not alone, though. God, I'm so tired.
"I might have expanded your view so much, opened up so many possibilities in your mind, that I might have lost me a manager for this. And I need a manager! I need someone to replace me, and do all the niggly bits. That person might not be you - and they will have their own front door! I'm still going to buy this perfect little cottage in Croydon! But I can't keep on helping young people expand all the time, and then nobody stays."
And she's right in a way.
"You might one day wake up and think of this as a small, backwater thing you don't want to do - and you're free to! Understand this: You will still be a child of this, we will still be connected! But I need something out of this, too."
Is she guilt-tripping me into staying here? Or is she seeing this much more clearly than I am.
She did expand my mind after all. And it turned from a completely magical place into a little backwater wanne-be B&B.
I tried to get to the core of my problem with all this, and I told her, that I am trying to figure this out.
I say:
"I'm setting up this system, so that someone can manage this - anyone, really - but everytime I do I push against not only your system, but your life. And you push back. No, you don't want direct debit, okay. But then this takes much longer than it should."
"It could work with the manager's account, though! They could put something online, if they wanted to!"
"That's not it."
No, it's "Everything that's mine is yours" versus "Don't drink the orange juice for the guests" and "Don't use the bathroom while there are guests there."
It's "I don't want to give any orders or explain how something works" versus "This is all a mess now, someone changed the order of these linen drawers" and "Someone did this completely wrong."
Is this really, again, just a case of bad communication? Or a case of bad behaviour set? What if I reacted not as a mindset charity case but as the future manager (which I don't want to be)?
And fear, always fear: "Just don't abandon me." Maybe it's not her pushing, that's annoying me so much, that's making me distance myself, emotionally. Maybe it's her pulling. I have always hated that. This implication of "If I don't rope you into staying, you will just forget about me."
Yes, she has expanded me. And yes, I won't stay here, I will expand further, like she predicts. But maybe I can take this with me, expand it with me. Maybe. Probably not alone, though. God, I'm so tired.
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Date: 2011-02-21 10:55 am (UTC)I may be on the completely wrong track, of course, but it struck me as a possibility. I mean, perhaps I can't keep on helping young people expand all the time, and then nobody stays is just a guilt-inducing mechanism ("I can't" = "I don't want to have to do that"), but maybe it is a genuine fear ("I can't" = "I physically or mentally will not forever be able to do that") after all. So maybe it is a communicative rather than behavioural issue?
(The orange juice/ linen thing sounds like the sort of thing you get in most relationships - at first you're so happy about the new situation that you don't care that the other person never cleans up behind him- or herself, but after a while all the things you thought you'd never care about/ the things you took for granted start to seriously rub you the wrong way. But I may be completely wrong there, too. And either way it is annoying - possibly for both sides...)
I'm probably not helping. Sorry. >_>
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Date: 2011-02-21 01:12 pm (UTC)And just knowing you read this and thought about this helps a lot already. I am feeling quite disconnected here - and although we don't meet up in Cologne half as much as we would like to, there's always the knowledge that we could, isn't there.
Anyway, thank you very much!
I think the solution might be found in what turnsunwise says further down.
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Date: 2011-02-21 06:58 pm (UTC)So when will you be back in Cologne?
Hope you find a good way to deal with the problem at hand. *crosses fingers for you*
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Date: 2011-02-21 07:07 pm (UTC)I'll be back 1st of March. What would you propose? And when? *_*
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Date: 2011-02-21 07:39 pm (UTC)If we're just talking about a random little meet-up, I have an appointment in Cologne on March 2nd - I could just drop by at your place for a couple of hours before that? Alternatively, a brunch, or a creative day/ afternoon/ weekend, or some board games, or a video night (I still haven't seen Glee!) sometime... take your pick! As for the when, let me know what week days suit you best :)
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