I'm having a decent debate with uishoz right now and had one in the last days with whiplash. I guess it's to some degree that there are a few dozen active members who have been there for a few years now and have regurgitated some immensely stupid posts by new people over and over as to reply in any serious way. There are trolls like everywhere, but if you make sense and don't start flaming, it's not really difficult to have serious debates. Today that seanroy person simply went on and on to post really retarded posts one after the other which were for the most part deleted within a few minutes, meaning it's flamefest today in his posts *shrug*.